German society is the result of a collective merit. It emerges out of the interplay of the joint and diverse contributions of all those who live in this country. Nevertheless, this fact is often forgotten or even denied today, increasingly by people in positions of power. 

Who does Germany belong to? In eight podcast episodes, Max Czollek and his guests shed light on different perspectives and concepts of belonging in a plural society. The dialogue creates an archive of home and resistance, reminding us that these discussions are not new and that strategies have already been found in the past that can be taken further today.

The podcast accompanies a series of talks titled Heimatization—On Belonging and Plurality, which take place at Haus der Kulturen der Welt from March to November 2025. It delves into the issues discussed there, opens up new perspectives, and explores how a society can be imagined in which everyone can be at home and not just some.


Episode 1: The Post-Migrant Decade, with Max Czollek and Naika Foroutan 

In episode 1, Max Czollek talks to Naika Foroutan, Professor of Integration Research and Social Policy at Humboldt University in Berlin, about the past post-migrant decade: about the origins of the term ‘post-migrant’ in theatre and art as well as its political relevance. Is the post-migrant era already coming to an end? Was the focus on diversity in many areas of society just a fad? Or is the relevance of post-migrant approaches now becoming more apparent? Max Czollek and Naika Foroutan categorize the achievements and challenges of the post-migrant movement and ask what working for plural democracy could look like in the future.

Episode 1: audio in the HKW Mediathek, audio on Podigee and other podcast platforms
 

Episode 2: (Post) East German?, with Max Czollek and Sergej Prokopkin

In episode 2, Max Czollek talks to Sergej Prokopkin, legal trainee and anti-discrimination trainer, about the Post-Ost concept he helped to develop: about Post-Ost as a space for empowerment, but also as a platform for progressive forces in the Post-Ost communities. Who can take part in Post-Ost and how can the plurality of communities be brought together without being homogenized? What is anti-Slavism and what alternative does Post-Ost propose? And how does Post-Ost take up existing models of anti-discrimination—and develop them further into an urgently needed progressive political practice?

Episode 2: audio on Podigee and other podcast platforms